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Frieza > End Of Z Goku; (no super forms)
Topic Started: Jan 24 2014, 07:37 PM (2,076 Views)
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He's saying that EOZ goku isn't stronger than frieza though
Well that all depends on how things scale for everyone. I don't think Goku's weaker by the end of Z, but that's just me.
What about goku fighting Uub though?
He showed his true power in a Kiai. I don't think Uub was fighting with his all in that match.
After goku angered him Uub went all out
And? This doesn't mean he's using all Buu's energy. He clearly has little to no control over Buu's power.
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He's saying that EOZ goku isn't stronger than frieza though
Well that all depends on how things scale for everyone. I don't think Goku's weaker by the end of Z, but that's just me.
What about goku fighting Uub though?
He showed his true power in a Kiai. I don't think Uub was fighting with his all in that match.
After goku angered him Uub went all out
Oob went all out, but not all out. Vegeta states that's it's basically a lesson for Oob.
The way I see it is that Uub was as strong as kid buu for that brief moment but he still can't control it. If that's not the case then do we have any idea how strong is EOZ goku?
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He's saying that EOZ goku isn't stronger than frieza though
Well that all depends on how things scale for everyone. I don't think Goku's weaker by the end of Z, but that's just me.
What about goku fighting Uub though?
He showed his true power in a Kiai. I don't think Uub was fighting with his all in that match.
After goku angered him Uub went all out
Oob went all out, but not all out. Vegeta states that's it's basically a lesson for Oob.
The way I see it is that Uub was as strong as kid buu for that brief moment but he still can't control it. If that's not the case then do we have any idea how strong is EOZ goku?
Still weaker than Freeza. It was stated in BoG. Otherwise, it would be impossible to calculate.
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He's saying that EOZ goku isn't stronger than frieza though
Well that all depends on how things scale for everyone. I don't think Goku's weaker by the end of Z, but that's just me.
What about goku fighting Uub though?
He showed his true power in a Kiai. I don't think Uub was fighting with his all in that match.
After goku angered him Uub went all out
Oob went all out, but not all out. Vegeta states that's it's basically a lesson for Oob.
The way I see it is that Uub was as strong as kid buu for that brief moment but he still can't control it. If that's not the case then do we have any idea how strong is EOZ goku?
Still weaker than Freeza. It was stated in BoG. Otherwise, it would be impossible to calculate.
But I don't see any solid proof against angered Uub being equal to kid buu. Enlighten me please.And goku was suppressed when beerus poked him
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But I don't see any solid proof against angered Uub being equal to kid buu. Enlighten me please.And goku was suppressed when beerus poked him
Well, do you have proof Goku was suppressed? If Goku was suppressed, how would Birusu and Whis sense him inside Kaio's house? Easy, they sense in a different way, the same way Dabra sensed the Zet-Senshi during the Boo arc.
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But I don't see any solid proof against angered Uub being equal to kid buu. Enlighten me please.And goku was suppressed when beerus poked him
Well, do you have proof Goku was suppressed? If Goku was suppressed, how would Birusu and Whis sense him inside Kaio's house? Easy, they sense in a different way, the same way Dabra sensed the Zet-Senshi during the Boo arc.
Because we know that goku is always suppressed. What do you mean about dabura? How does he sense differently?
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But I don't see any solid proof against angered Uub being equal to kid buu. Enlighten me please.And goku was suppressed when beerus poked him
Well, do you have proof Goku was suppressed? If Goku was suppressed, how would Birusu and Whis sense him inside Kaio's house? Easy, they sense in a different way, the same way Dabra sensed the Zet-Senshi during the Boo arc.
Because we know that goku is always suppressed. What do you mean about dabura? How does he sense differently?
They were all suppressed, yet he could sense them.

I do see a flaw in my statement though. Dabra most likely sensed dormant power. Is Goku always suppressed? Didn't know that.
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Yes goku is always suppressed. The thing is, I personally don't know anything that proves base goku in the buu saga is stronger than frieza so it doesn't really matter anyway unless someone can tell me
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Beers was saying that about Goku's physique, not his power. Not only was Beers trying to get Goku mad, Goku didn't look like the one who had defeated Freeza either
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Goku transformed too quickly for him to be surpressed to the extent some of you are saying. I agree with OP's views.
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